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WorldClassWellness:Solutionsforwork,home&play! Posted 1/18/2011 2:48:28 PM	Great post here David, well covered topic. If I may chime in here for those of us not always able to get enough barefoot time, due to climate, lifestyle, environment, etc. and also for a more wellness home lifestyle, including EQL magnetic insoles, other magnetic grounding, far-infrared & living energy products to augment our lifestyle, there are natural lifestyle options here at http://tinyurl.com/wcwbob I'll also be posting some educational videos on NaturalNewsTV soon, so be chatting more with you then :) ps: here is a good summary research pdf here for all, http://worldclasswellness.com/webfiles/Why_Good_Health_Begins_With_Magnetism.pdf Cheers, Bob
Equilibra Posted 1/17/2011 4:02:39 PM	Cont...Just to clarify to avoid any confusion, the figure of 0.23 mA used in the last post was beased on a 230v system, so a 250v system would = 0.25 mA. The best advice I can give on top of what has been shared is to read an Electrical Engineers (Safety) Manual. As I keep saying, the Safety & Regulatory Standards are there for a reason. I however, admire your determination to get to the truth, but there is no need to look beyond the Regulations as they cover practically every eventuality. They need to! No doubt they may be revised in the future, but that would only to lower the level of mA allowed into the body, not the other way around. Happy grounding...
Equilibra Posted 1/17/2011 1:25:00 PM	Answer to last post: It is all to do with wet conditions as against dry ones. According to Industry Standards & the German Electrical Installation Guide - Electrical Safety vital for Electricians: the maximum safe duration of hazardous current is 3/10ths of a second, or 300 milliseconds. Additionally the 'threshold' at which current becomes dangerous is 0.23 mA. Further, Dry Skin is approx. 100,000 Ohms, not dry nor wet approx. 5,000 Ohms and wet 1,000 Ohms or less. As people sweat in bed, may be incontinent, have a pacemaker etc., then even as little as 1 mA can prove fatal - albeit under extreme circumstances. Also being in bed or wearing a wrist strap does not allow a person to 'let go' and the current would last far longer than 300 milliseconds. All I can say is I've covered most of it and Safety Standards are there for a reason, based on 30+ yrs of experience, injuries and fatalities...If you want to be really safe without any worries then 0.25 mA is the maximum I would use...
Steve333 Posted 1/16/2011 12:09:14 PM	To Equilibra: Yes, it's Steve here. All I know for sure is that since my wife and I have been using grounding, we have noticed a big difference in how well we sleep and have just felt generally much better. Since our conversation I've done quite a lot of reading on the internet and Clint's book again, as I'm trying to understand, and also reassure my wife that there is no risk of electrocution! I do appreciate the time you've spent with your explanations. I'm particularly interested when you say 1mA has been proved to be fatal. Can you point me to where this proof is documentated as this would obviously be a concern, and seems quite different to what EarthFX/Barefoot Connections/Groundology/Earthing Institute/Clint Ober are saying. I'm not particurly intersted in the legal goings on between these companies, I'm sure that most of this is unforuntatly around money not health. I'm just interested in the safe use of grounding equipment which can benefit my longterm health. Thank you.
Equilibra Posted 1/13/2011 5:14:54 PM	Steve333's last comment: we wish you well too as it is important that as many people as possible understand the simplicity and benefits of grounding. Using Regulatory Safety Standard Leads & Plugs, and even using the Bed Pads underneath normal Bed Sheets, we have still witnessed some amazing results in the vast majority of users. It is also necessary to be able to be flexible too for people who are EHS or have 'challenging' health issues. So it is not necessary - in our opinion - to compromise on safety because it makes no difference to the benefits. By the way, are you Steve or Seb?
Equilibra Posted 1/13/2011 12:30:38 PM	...Which is why, even though we are Official Distributors of EarthFX products, we too had to remove ALL of their information, science etc from our web site. Or face litigation. However, we are aware of a few cases where EarthFX are 'over reaching' their Patent. Something a lot of companies do, especially in the US. But most people get frightened off by Lawyers letters and thought of costly litigation and so simply 'go away'. As I said, we were just trying to warn you about what was going on and be helpful. As for the 'Safety' aspect, if you still don't accept why the Regulations are as strict as they are, and are there for very good reasons, then we will have to agree to disagree. However, that is a risk you take...
Equilibra Posted 1/13/2011 12:25:13 PM	EarthFX have every right to protect their copyright material and Trade Marks. Nothing wrong with that. 'Barefoot Connections' & 'Earthing' are both Trade Marked by EarthFX! People in the US abused this information and were selling EarthFX products along with the science and making 'health claims'. You cannot do that, especially in the US. These web sites brought the attention of the FDA to EarthFX's door. This cost them a lot of time and money which is why they shut down 100s of web sites in the US and are suing others for breach of copyright and Trade Marks both in the US & UK....
Equilibra Posted 1/13/2011 12:20:51 PM	...EarthFX used a 1 meg ohm resistor in all their leads until recently, after they realised that there were other companies offering good grounding solutions. We 'feel' that this change was purely a 'marketing ploy' to make out their products were in some way different and thus 'better'. We told them so after we discovered that their 100 kohm resistors were actually only 50 kohm in over 70% of leads tested. As the size of the resistor makes no difference to voltage discharge or flow of Free Electrons, why should anybody put a person at potential risk when there is absolutely no need to?...
Equilibra Posted 1/13/2011 12:16:35 PM	With regard to current all these web sites are based on 'dry conditions' and most do not take into consideration 'wet conditions' as these affect the 'risk or harm' enormously. 1mA will only prove fatal in extreme circumstances, agreed, but the fact remains that it is possible. Likewise lightening strikes have to be taken into account. Again highly unlikely, but a possibility. Also the 'let go' principle that these web sites base their information on does not apply to people with feet on a Mat, grounded by wrist strap or grounded whilst sleeping. You cannot 'let go' when you are asleep for example, so the risk is 'amplified'. The Safety Regulations are there for a reason, based on 30+ years of experience. cont...
Steve333 Posted 1/13/2011 11:05:56 AM	.....are probably just trying to protect this investment. Anyway, it's been an interesting discussion, and I wish you all the best. Steve
Steve333 Posted 1/13/2011 6:33:10 AM	Hi Equilibra, I do appreciate that you must have done research in this area, and I admit that my research amounts to a bit of googling around since we started having this discussion. Having said this, I wouldn't discount everything as wrong just because it appears on the internet. For example, this page summarises the research in 6 different books on dangerous levels of electric current: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/JackHsu.shtml None of these books state that 1mA current is anything more than on the borderline of perception, and certainly not dangerous. And I do find it hard to believe that EarthFX have not done their research into making a safe product. This is Clint Ober's company, right, and isn't he the guy who has been developing this grounding technology since the beginning? Sure, it does sound a bit mean if they are going around suing people but I guess they must have invested a lot of money in their research and development and are probably just trying to protect
Equilibra Posted 1/10/2011 12:25:56 PM	...We are all for as many people as possible providing information about grounding and offering good solid and useful solutions. But we also know what is going on behind the scenes too and just wanted to make people aware of this so they could make changes and avoid any possible litigation. But, in our opinion based on many years of grounding experience, this has to be done Safely and properly. We have told EarthFX that it is our opinion that by using a lower resistor they are putting some people at potential risk, so we are not isolating anybody, or saying anything specific about groundology that we have not said directly to EarthFX. I personally wish you well and hope that you will look at the Connection and Safety side of things.
Equilibra Posted 1/10/2011 12:15:24 PM	We do not see other companies as 'competition' as you seem to believe. We shared that information out of courtesy because we know what is going on behind the scenes and simply do not agree with the 'US Litigation' route being used at the moment. 100s of web sites have been shut down in the US over the last year for using EarthFX copyright images, science, FAQs and Trade Marks. We too had to remove all Barefoot Connections 'stuff' from our web site or face litigation. Barefoot Connections and Earthing are both Trade Marked. So we were merely warning you about what is happening and is likely to happen. We know people are currently being sued in the US and that a couple of UK people will be receiving Attorney letters soon, so we were being courteous...
Equilibra Posted 1/10/2011 12:09:12 PM	cont...In all experiments held in the UK, EU & US the only difference a 1 megohm resistor made to discharging body voltage was the 'time' it actually took compared with a lower resistor. And here we are only talking about milliseconds. If you read the Earthing Institute web site closely, they actually state this fact after making the initial statement that it does make a difference. As for 'Flow of Free Electrons' this is what Clint said in a reply to my questions: "Charging the body with earth's free electrons does reduce and prevent inflammation no matter the resistance..." we have been involved in grounding for over 15 year so we have done our research and have a policy of not 'believing' all that we see and read on web sites and in books...
Equilibra Posted 1/10/2011 12:02:44 PM	Whilst in dry conditions and dry skin can result in most people experiencing very little from 5mA, this is not the case with all people as we are all different. Additionally the humidity of the air has to be considered. Also when 'sleeping grounded' the 'body' will likely sweat and as such this moisture will (reduce skin resistance to zero) and increase conductivity andthus can magnify the Currentby a factor up to 10x or more. You are right that a 200kOhm will only allow 1.25mA on 250v. My mistake, I was using EarthFX's 100kOhm as an example. But 1.25mA is still 2 1/2x Regulatory Standards and 5x the UL recommendations.
Equilibra Posted 1/10/2011 11:51:56 AM	cont...The Safery & Regulatory Standards are based on over 30 years experience, testing, science & knowledge and are there for one reason only - to protect people from an electric shock. They are not based on 'opinions' of 'Safety' appearing on a US web site designed to promote EarthFX products. There is far more to this than you seem to appreciate...cont
Equilibra Posted 1/10/2011 11:48:21 AM	Comments on 1st reply: We are distributors for EarthFX products and have been for many years. We just do not use their leads that's all. In fact EarthFX pass their International customers onto us for their Connection Kits. You are mistaken in that you think the Industry Standards I quoted are related only to the electronics industry. they are not and are 'across the board' and apply to any 'person' or 'personnel' being grounded. The fact remains that under certain circumstances 1mA has been proven to be fatal...cont
Steve333 Posted 1/10/2011 8:15:59 AM	continued... It is obvious that you see other companies like Groundology as your competitors, and yet I'm sure there are more than enough people in the world to support all of your businesses, and stating that other companies are in breach of copyright or trademarks seems to be nothing more than unfounded backbiting (unless of course you are the copyright or trademark holder which I don't think is the case). I continue to live in hope that the businesses of this world will move into a space of co-operation rather than competition, and away from the scarcity and lack based reality which is (IMO) the root of so many of our current problems. Like I said in my original post, I think Grounding is very beneficial, and I am grateful to all the companies who are making these technologies so easily available.
Steve333 Posted 1/10/2011 8:14:15 AM	continued... You calculation of the current through a 200 KOhm protection resistor is also wrong. Even assuming the body skin resistance is 0 (in fact it is more likely around 100 KOhm), then the maximum current would be 1.25mA (250V / 200K). Regarding the benefit of grounding being the same regardless of a large protection resistance like 1 or 2 MegOhm: this does not appear to be fully true. This is explained here: http://www.earthinginstitute.net/index.php/faq#d16 and http://www.groundology.com/faqs.php#q12
Steve333 Posted 1/10/2011 8:12:23 AM	Hi Equilibra, Thanks for your in depth reply which has prompted me to do a bit more research. A few things which you say don't seem to add up. For example you say you are a distributor for Barefoot/EarthFX products which use a 100K protection resistor and yet you say this is not safe. You quote industry standards from the electronics industry, but in these situations people are very often dealing with voltages much higher than 250V. You say that only 1mA can prove fatal, yet in a number of sources I've found, it is stated that a current of 1mA is almost imperceivable, and certainly nowhere near dangerous. On the Earthing Institute website it states that the accepted safety limit is 5-8mA.
Equilibra Posted 1/7/2011 11:16:20 AM	...[to have direct skin contact with the material to b]e grounded and thus benefit! It is not how the energies of the human body work, or how all of nature interacts with everything around it, in Abiotic and Biotic ways. Also, from what we can see, Groundology is in breach of a host of Copyrighted material and two Trade Marks, and could possibly face litigation in the coming weeks. Just like other companies/people are facing today in the UK, and more so in the US, for exactly the same reasons. Hope this helps the reader, and answers steve333’s concerns, but more can be found on our web site and in our Safety Notice.
Equilibra Posted 1/6/2011 3:21:34 PM	...in certain circumstances, then I'm sure that we can all appreciate just how important this issue is with regard to safety. Additionally, we have been - and still are - distributors for Barefoot/EarthFX products, and have had this debate with Clint on a number of occasions. Furthermore, as the size of the Resistor (within reason) does not affect the Flow of Free Electrons in any way (confirmed in writing by Clint Ober), and only reduces the excess body voltage discharge by milliseconds, then there is no reason whatsoever to compromise on safety and thus be in breach on Regulatory Standards, Unfortunately the Earthing book contains a few statements which are misleading and serve only to confuse the reader, leading some people to believe that they are offering a 'safe' form of grounding, when they are not. I did originally post a lot more than this, because there is a lot more too it, like you do not need to have direct skin contact with the material to be grounded and thus receive b
Equilibra Posted 1/6/2011 1:40:22 PM	To steve333's latest comment: I did do a detailed reply yesterday but when I went to post it, I was immediately signed out. Briefly this time, we have been offering Grounding Solutions since the mid 1990s, so we know the Industry, Safety Standards & Regulations as well as all the various means available to ground the body - safely - inside and out. The Industry & Regulatory Safety Standards state that when a human is 'grounded' then it must not be subjected to any more current than 0.5mA! Underwriter Laboratories (UL) further recommend that this limit is reduced to 0.25mA, which most of Industry adopts today. So, in the UK & EU and countries with a 250v system, this means that an absolute minimum of a 1 meg ohm resistor must be used to comply with these standards. Using only a 200 kohm resistor means that a current of 2.5mA would be allowed to enter the human body, 5X the Regulatory Standard and 10X the UL recommendations. As only 1mA can prove to be fatal in certain cir
Steve333 Posted 1/4/2011 7:26:35 PM	Hi Equilibra, Could you elaborate on what you mean by 200 kOhms not being industry standard? From reading Clinton Ober's book Earthing he recommends 100 kOhms for the full benefit of grounding, and I believe this is what is used in the US products sold by his company Barefoot Connections. However since the mains voltage in in Europe is twice what it is in US, it seems correct to use a 200 kOhm protection resistor here in order that the current would be limited to a safe amount in case of a wrongly mains socket.
Equilibra Posted 12/29/2010 12:03:20 PM	In response to Steve333: Unfortunately their product range is very basic and the Safety of the Connections with only 200 kOhms Resistors is not Industry Standard. Greater selection and flexibility of products from: http://www.equilibrauk.com/Personal_Body_Grounding.htm
Steve333 Posted 12/29/2010 10:44:59 AM	Great information. My wife and I have been using grounding for quite a while now … it’s made a really big difference, and especially when sitting in front of a computer. We had some trouble finding grounding equipment suitable for use in the UK and Europe, but eventually found somewhere so thought I’d share the link. They have quite a good selection of different bits & pieces, for most countries in the world. http://www.groundology.com
Equilibra Posted 7/23/2010	Gardening will definitely help. Especially if you wear ESD Grounding Shoes at the same time. Just google Barefoot Substitutes and esd shoes...
Look4Qualilty Posted 7/23/2010	This video is so important! I remember while growing up I went barefoot and vacationed at the beach and I was never happier or healthier. I actually remember feeling such elation as I would run up and down the beach barefoot. I need to get out in the sun and go back to the beach!
Look4Qualilty Posted 7/23/2010	If you don't like to go barefoot, will gardening help you become grounded?

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